The Law Offices of Randall L. Perry, PLLC

The Law Offices of Randall L. Perry, PLLC Board Certified Specialist in Commercial & Residential Real Property Law

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My main goal as a real estate lawyer has never been to be the biggest or busiest, but rather to be the best. In pursuit ...
12/17/2023

My main goal as a real estate lawyer has never been to be the biggest or busiest, but rather to be the best. In pursuit of that goal, in 2022 I successfully obtained the designation as a "Board Certified Specialist" in Residential Real Property Law by the North Carolina State Bar.

This year, I was able to add to that designation by becoming a Board Certified Specialist in Commercial Real Property Law as well.

Out of the more than 30,000 active lawyers in North Carolina, fewer than 40 are currently recognized as Board Certified Specialists in both Commercial and Residential Real Property Law.

06/04/2023

Story Time:

Recently, we had a real estate closing where the title search revealed a legal judgment against the seller, which was a lien on the property that had to be paid by the seller as part of the transaction. This isn’t unusual – a judgment search is done on every closing, and although most sellers don’t have judgments against them, some do.

The seller was very surprised when we informed them about the judgment lien, which was docketed several years ago. This surprise is also not unusual, as most folks don’t know that judgments become liens against all property that they own or even later acquire in the County for a period of at least 10 years.

What was unusual in this case, however, was that the seller had recently sold multiple properties in the same County, and they said that they were never informed about the judgment by any of the law firms that handled those closing. Why, they asked, were they required to pay the judgment now, but not when they sold any of the prior properties?

We informed them that it was because the 3 law firms that handled those closings – all well-known and busy real estate law firms – had failed to discover the judgment during their title searches. The result was that those properties were sold with the judgment lien still "attached" to the property, meaning that there were 3 other property owners who had clouds on their title due to this lien.

As part of the title search conducted in-house by the Attorneys at our office, including a thorough review of the judgment index using the methods and protocol we've established, the judgment was discovered, paid, and canceled as part of the real estate closing. As a result, our client obtained clear title to their property, free of any liens, and the owners of the other 3 properties all had their titles cleared of the lien and the clouds on their titles removed.

At our firm, we focus on the quality of the work we do over the quantity. Our title search process is the most comprehensive that I know of, and we regularly find title errors and issues that others have missed. We then tackle the often-daunting task of fixing those errors, working together with the title company to secure clear title for our client.

Our aim isn't to be the biggest, busiest, or flashiest law firm. We have a more basic goal: to be the smartest and hardest-working real estate lawyers in the Triad, providing our clients and their agents with representation and expertise in real estate law that is second to none.

05/28/2023

Read on to learn about the current status of "E-Closings" in North Carolina:

Our office is often asked if loan documents for a real estate purchase can be signed completely online for a borrower who can’t attend closing, usually because they are in another state. We explain that it’s not currently possible in North Carolina to do a loan closing this way, because some documents in the loan paperwork must be notarized, and North Carolina does not allow documents to be notarized remotely online.

Recently, I’ve learned that there is a lot of false/misleading information online and on social media about the ability to do closings remotely. The result being that many folks believe it is currently possible to do a loan closing entirely from your phone, wherever you are.

I believe the main cause of this misinformation is a loose use of the term “eclosing” by a few agents and law firms across the state. They use “eclosing” to refer to a couple different types of closings, but ironically, the one type of closing that they AREN’T referring to is the one that everyone wants - a fully remote online closing.

So let’s look at the different types of closings that are being referred to as “eclosings”:

1. CASH PURCHASES: The first is a closing without a mortgage loan, also known as a cash purchase. In this scenario, it IS possible to do everything remotely and online for the buyer’s side, because the buyer doesn’t need to sign anything that is notarized. Usually they only sign a HUD statement and a couple of disclosures or agreements. All of these can be electronically signed on any type of device (computer, tablet, phone), and from anywhere in the world. You can be flying over the Atlantic or sitting on the beach in California, and as long as you have an internet signal and can open the attachment, you’ll be good. This type of closing, signed in this manner, has been done by every real estate lawyer in North Carolina for years. Even before everyone had a smartphone in their pocket, buyers were electronically signing HUD statements on cash deals at their desktop. I’d estimate at least 70% of our cash buyers sign their final closing documents via docusign, and never come into our office. We do this multiple times a month, as does probably every other real estate lawyer in the state. But when clients ask about the ability to do an “eclosing,” they aren’t referring to cash closings. Yet apparently, there are law firms and agents referring to these cash closings as "eclosings." Personally, I think that doing so is dumb at best, and deceptive at worst.

2. HYBRID CLOSINGS: The second scenario involves a lender who has what are often referred to as “hybrid” loan packages. With these closings, the buyer will sign some, but not all, of the loan documents electronically in the lender’s online portal or app. But the buyer must still meet with the Attorney in-person to sign the documents that need to be notarized, again because North Carolina does not currently allow for the remote online notarization of documents. Referring to these “hybrid” closings as “eclosings” may be technically correct, because a portion of the documents are being signed electronically. But it doesn’t remove the need for the client to meet with the attorney in-person to complete the signing, and therefore is not an option for a buyer who is located out of the state and can’t come to the closing. From a practical perspective, the only difference between this type of closing and a traditional paper closing is that the buyer spends about 15 minutes less time with the attorney at the closing table.

3. IN-PERSON ELECTRONIC CLOSINGS: The final scenario is when the buyer’s loan is from one of the few lenders who utilize a fully-electronic loan package that is signed using “In-Person Electronic Notarization,” often called “IPEN.” In these closings, the buyer signs all documents electronically, and the documents are notarized electronically – no pen or paper is used. But the key thing to note here is that it is called “IN-PERSON Electronic Notarization” for a reason: because the buyer and Attorney are still present together in the same room when the signing and notarization are happening. They are even using the same device to sign everything – either a tablet or computer. They can’t be in different places. So while this is an “eclosing” because the documents are being signed electronically, it is not what most people are requesting when they ask if it is possible to "sign their loan documents electronically.” They aren’t worried about saving paper. They are asking for the ability to do it remotely, whenever and wherever they are. If I were to tell a client “yes, we can do your loan closing electronically,” only to then explain that I just meant we’d sign on an iPad in my conference room instead of with pen and paper, they would think I was a fool. (And they’d be right to do so).


Every single time I’ve been asked by a client or agent about the potential to “sign electronically,” or any derivation of that term, they’ve been asking if the buyer’s loan documents could be signed remotely online because the client wouldn’t be able to attend closing – usually because they are in another state. And the answer to that question is currently “NO.” (If you anyone tells you differently, they are either misinformed or just flat-out lying).

However, the answer won’t always be “No.” Remote Electronic Notarization (REN) will be available in North Carolina in the future. We just don't know exactly when that will be. A law was passed in 2022 that allows the North Carolina Secretary of State’s office to begin creating the framework for REN sometime after July 1, 2023. But it won’t be in place that soon - they recently said it will likely be “a year or more” before everything is ready to allow documents to be signed and notarized electronically and remotely online. But until that day comes, the only “eclosings” that can be done in North Carolina are of the variety mentioned above, none of which are of any use to a buyer who’s trying to close a mortgage loan from their phone while in another state.

I have been nominated for both "Best Real Estate Attorney" and "Best Attorney" overall in the Winston-Salem Journal's An...
04/17/2023

I have been nominated for both "Best Real Estate Attorney" and "Best Attorney" overall in the Winston-Salem Journal's Annual Reader's Choice contest. If you want to vote for me in one or both categories, you can do so by following this link. https://journalnow.com/contests/readers-choice

You can find the Real Estate Attorney category under "People and Personalities," and the General Attorney category is under "Professional Services."

You can vote for both once a day from now until voting ends on April 30th.

People often ask us what areas we cover for closings. Is it just Forsyth County, or is it more?  The answer is that we c...
04/12/2023

People often ask us what areas we cover for closings. Is it just Forsyth County, or is it more? The answer is that we cover the entire Piedmont Triad area as shown on this map, which is: Forsyth, Davidson, Davie, Guilford, Randolph, Rockingham, Stokes, and Yadkin County. We also cover Brunswick and New Hanover County.

Additionally, on a case-by-case basis, we cover: Surry, Rowan, Moore, and Iredell Counties. Call or email us about these ones to see if we can do your closing there.

I have a 1-Star review on Google from a guy who was upset that I wouldn’t allow him to forge his mom’s signature. That’s...
04/02/2023

I have a 1-Star review on Google from a guy who was upset that I wouldn’t allow him to forge his mom’s signature. That’s fine with me - I’ll wear that lone star as a badge of honor, as we will never compromise or bend when it comes to following the law.

You can check out our Google profile and leave you own review here. Hopefully our representation of you or your client warrants a 5-Star review. But we if made you mad by refusing to do something illegal or unethical for you, please go ahead and post about that too! I may use it in future marketing materials.

★★★★☆ · Real estate attorney

MV Realty paid thousands of NC homeowners a few hundred dollars in exchange for an agreement to be their listing agent i...
03/27/2023

MV Realty paid thousands of NC homeowners a few hundred dollars in exchange for an agreement to be their listing agent if they decided to sell their home - at any time in the next 40 years! - but then made it difficult to even use them to do that. I had a few calls from homeowners and agents asking about this over the last 2 years. It really was a sad situation.

The NC Attorney General's office is now going after MV Realty, and hopefully all of the agreements already signed will be voided. Additionally, the NC legislature has legislation pending that would make such agreements illegal in the future.

MV Realty is accused of using deception and high-pressure sales tactics to lock customers into potentially costly long-term agreements.

03/20/2023

I asked ChatGPT to write a crime novel about a real estate agent who is wrongly accused of murder. This is what it gave me:

"Laura was a successful realtor, known for her excellent sales record and impeccable reputation. That was until the day she was accused of murder.

It all started when a client who had been interested in purchasing a high-end property with her was found dead in the backyard of the property. The police immediately suspected Laura, since she had been the last person to see the client alive.

Laura was stunned. She knew she had nothing to do with the murder, but the evidence seemed to be piling up against her. The client's blood was found on her jacket, and her fingerprints were all over the victim's car.

Laura knew she had to act fast. With the help of her assistant, she started investigating the case on her own. She found out that the victim had been involved in some shady business dealings, and had been threatening to reveal some incriminating information about a powerful local businessman.

Laura's investigation led her to a seedy bar on the outskirts of town, where she met with a man who had been seen arguing with the victim on the day of his death. The man revealed that he had been paid by the businessman to take care of the victim, but that he had only intended to scare him. The businessman had apparently planned to frame Laura for the murder, in order to eliminate a potential witness to his illegal activities.

With this new information, Laura was able to clear her name and bring the real killer to justice. She continued to work as a realtor, but was much more careful in choosing her clients and always kept an eye out for any signs of trouble. She had learned the hard way that in the real estate business, anything can happen, and it's always best to be prepared."

Not horrible, but I don't think novelists have to worry too much about AI taking over their jobs just yet.

03/14/2023
03/07/2023

April 7, 2023 is Good Friday, and the Register of Deeds is closed, so be sure to take that into account when scheduling your closings.

03/02/2023

Each day in February, I posted a bit a knowledge or tip related to North Carolina real estate and title law. But February is a short month, so I am going to give a BONUS tip today: No matter how much you may think you know about real estate, you should always, always, ALWAYS hire a licensed Real Estate Agent to represent you whenever you are buying or selling a property.

The reasons are numerous, and more than just financial. With everything that needs to be done in a real estate transaction, it can be extremely easy to get overwhelmed – physically and mentally. Having an Agent representing you and working on your behalf will not only take a lot of the burden off your shoulders, but it will help you avoid making a bad decision based on the stress or emotions of the situation.

I'll put it this way: I have been a real estate lawyer for almost 18 years. My entire practice is devoted to real estate law. I have represented buyers, sellers, builders, developers, lenders, and title companies in thousands of transactions. I am one of only 47 lawyers in the entire state of North Carolina (and 1 of only 3 in Forsyth County) who are currently designated by the NC State Bar as a Board-Certified Specialist in Residential Real Property Law. So I feel I can say, without hubris, that I have as good or better of a knowledge base as any other real estate expert out there. And I wouldn’t consider - for even a second - trying to buy or sell a property without engaging the services of a Real Estate Agent.

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1100 S. Stratford Road, Suite 325C
Winston-Salem, NC
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